Introducing the ZTE Axon M

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  • hollaphollap Wisconsin USA Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll offer my thoughts on the Axon M. As I was in person at the M event and actually handled and used the phone, I'll say I went in a skeptic and came away impressed. Now that doesn't mean i think it will sell well. Because i don't think it will. But I don't think ZTE needs it to either. Here are some thoughts I have:

    • Japanese company Docomo sanctioned ZTE to create this device
    • AT&T and 2 other companies also joined in
    • Because ZTE was sanctioned for this, I assume they were paid, meaning it doesn't really matter how many units they sell
    • I think this device has a shot in Asia, but not Europe or the US
    • AT&T exclusivity and the price are two huge knocks against this device in the US
    • The device itself is rather impressive in my opinion
    • The mode I really enjoyed playing with is the A|B mode. Watching a video, or a ball game on one screen while answering texts, email, or surfing the web on the other is just an awesome experience
    • I'm worried about battery life on this device, 2 screens can't be easy to power

    The point is innovation doesn't happen overnight. Someone has to be first and more times than not first isn't always best. This may very well sell less devices than the Essential phone. But innovators won't stop. ZTE won't stop. Essential won't stop. Samsung won't stop. you never know what will be the next new thing.

    So fail or not i applaud ZTE for the innovation in this product. Even if it serves to get the name ZTE out there in places like the US, Japan, and Europe, it can't hurt. And the technology learned by ZTE engineers along the way also can't be a bad thing. Just because a device fails doesn't mean it was a failed project.

  • jimlloyd40jimlloyd40 Phoenix, AZ Posts: 14,654 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @hollap said:
    I'll offer my thoughts on the Axon M. As I was in person at the M event and actually handled and used the phone, I'll say I went in a skeptic and came away impressed. Now that doesn't mean i think it will sell well. Because i don't think it will. But I don't think ZTE needs it to either. Here are some thoughts I have:

    • Japanese company Docomo sanctioned ZTE to create this device
    • AT&T and 2 other companies also joined in
    • Because ZTE was sanctioned for this, I assume they were paid, meaning it doesn't really matter how many units they sell
    • I think this device has a shot in Asia, but not Europe or the US
    • AT&T exclusivity and the price are two huge knocks against this device in the US
    • The device itself is rather impressive in my opinion
    • The mode I really enjoyed playing with is the A|B mode. Watching a video, or a ball game on one screen while answering texts, email, or surfing the web on the other is just an awesome experience
    • I'm worried about battery life on this device, 2 screens can't be easy to power

    The point is innovation doesn't happen overnight. Someone has to be first and more times than not first isn't always best. This may very well sell less devices than the Essential phone. But innovators won't stop. ZTE won't stop. Essential won't stop. Samsung won't stop. you never know what will be the next new thing.

    So fail or not i applaud ZTE for the innovation in this product. Even if it serves to get the name ZTE out there in places like the US, Japan, and Europe, it can't hurt. And the technology learned by ZTE engineers along the way also can't be a bad thing. Just because a device fails doesn't mean it was a failed project.

    Very nice @hollap. Well written. I would be very interested down the road if ZTE continues to develop the M. What it would take for me to have genuine interest is a smaller border between the screens when the phone is opened to show both screens and a battery in each half of the phone. I would have to be able to purchase it unlocked but I certainly understand ZTE making it an AT&T exclusive due to the funding sources. I would hope that ZTE isn't locked into keeping it as an AT&T exclusive if and when a follow up M is produced.

  • wings4anniewings4annie Orange,caPosts: 1,042 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @cphere said:
    My "for what it's worth" on success/failure of the Axon M:

    Around 5 years ago a brave company announced an innovative idea with exclusive USA distribution through AT&T - the Azus Padfone. A lot of talk about how it wouldn't sell, would flop, and was dangerous to buy into. I'm now looking at the Axon M as being the first phone worth replacing my aging - but still fully functional - Padfone. I use my phone every day, often heavily, and early on purchased a second tablet so I could rotate them to maintain battery life.

    I get that for the company device adoption and market success is a critical concern, but for the end user that's not always the focus. A very real case could be made for the Padfone being a failure in the US but it ended up being the best phone choice I've made to date, and the first phone that has been able to support my daily working needs for well over 4 years now. Although the OS is out of date and I've wanted to update, until the Axon M came out no phone has provided a compelling argument for me to do so. I have reviewed many phones during this period and have purchased three new phones for my wife while continuing to use the Padfone (including a Galaxy S7 Edge) but none until the Axon M have provided motivation for me to change.

    AT&T exclusivity will serve as an initial market limiter and the same applied to the Padfone. However, the Padfone did become available as an unlocked device and I expect this will be true of the Axon M. Given that the M has a much greater frequency range than the Padfone this suggests the opportunity for it to expand, assuming there is popularity to support such expansion.

    I'll quickly also address the "...but it has a bezel..." - yes, it is two screens and not a single folding display. Solid folding displays for the US market are still years away. If you want to wait that's fine, but please don't knock a company willing to try an innovative approach to a smartphone that can be purchased and used today just because they're working within the frame of technology which can be distributed and supported now.

    I would like to see the Axon M catch on, but more important I see in it a phone that meets my needs and is likely to keep me going for the next few years. I've been at this point before with the Padfone and am entirely comfortable buying the phone as soon as it becomes available.

    I looked up the padfone, nice.
    I too am looking forward to the release on Axon M

  • DoppelgangerDDoppelgangerD USA Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @cphere said:
    My "for what it's worth" on success/failure of the Axon M:

    snip

    Hi @cphere and welcome to the Z-Community!

    I remember now when that Padfone was released and I thought it was kind cool.
    I didn't look too far into it at the time and forgot all about it until you just posted about it.
    It certainly was an innovative product back then, just like the Axon M is today.
    Of course since then we've entered into things like tethering and mirroring devices too.
    It will be interesting to read your thoughts on the M if you purchase it when it comes out.
    Thanks for post all of that though. It was quite interesting revisiting the Padfone.

  • scott779scott779 Posts: 124 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well there's always got to be something that purports to be new. :) I have a hard enough time with 1 screen, let alone 2. But I'm sure there are users who need 2 screens (they wouldn't have made it there wasn't a market). Plus there's twice the chance of breaking glass and having your battery only last half as long. ;)

  • jimlloyd40jimlloyd40 Phoenix, AZ Posts: 14,654 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @scott779 said:
    Well there's always got to be something that purports to be new. :) I have a hard enough time with 1 screen, let alone 2. But I'm sure there are users who need 2 screens (they wouldn't have made it there wasn't a market). Plus there's twice the chance of breaking glass and having your battery only last half as long. ;)

    ZTE and AT&T are hoping there's a market for a dual screen phone.

  • cpherecphere Indianapolis Indiana USAPosts: 7 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DoppelgangerD said:
    It will be interesting to read your thoughts on the M if you purchase it when it comes out.

    Got my Axon M on Friday. Plan on offering a first week's experience post as time allows.

  • westside80westside80 KentuckyPosts: 5,532 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @cphere said:

    @DoppelgangerD said:
    It will be interesting to read your thoughts on the M if you purchase it when it comes out.

    Got my Axon M on Friday. Plan on offering a first week's experience post as time allows.

    Cool. I bet you'll get a lot of looks carrying around that phone.

  • hollaphollap Wisconsin USA Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @cphere said:

    @DoppelgangerD said:
    It will be interesting to read your thoughts on the M if you purchase it when it comes out.

    Got my Axon M on Friday. Plan on offering a first week's experience post as time allows.

    @cphere said:

    @DoppelgangerD said:
    It will be interesting to read your thoughts on the M if you purchase it when it comes out.

    Got my Axon M on Friday. Plan on offering a first week's experience post as time allows.

    Can't wait to hear what you think @cphere!

  • jimlloyd40jimlloyd40 Phoenix, AZ Posts: 14,654 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @hollap said:

    @cphere said:

    @DoppelgangerD said:
    It will be interesting to read your thoughts on the M if you purchase it when it comes out.

    Got my Axon M on Friday. Plan on offering a first week's experience post as time allows.

    @cphere said:

    @DoppelgangerD said:
    It will be interesting to read your thoughts on the M if you purchase it when it comes out.

    Got my Axon M on Friday. Plan on offering a first week's experience post as time allows.

    Can't wait to hear what you think @cphere!

    Same here. What phone are you coming from @cphere?

  • jasonscarterjasonscarter Tallahassee FLPosts: 969 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    Did anyone else here pre-order it?

  • mrknight85mrknight85 Coxsackie New YorkPosts: 630 ✭✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a video up on my channel (knight tech)

  • westside80westside80 KentuckyPosts: 5,532 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @mrknight85 said:
    I have a video up on my channel (knight tech)

    Did you buy it or is it a review unit?

  • cpherecphere Indianapolis Indiana USAPosts: 7 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jimlloyd40 said:

    @hollap said:

    Can't wait to hear what you think @cphere!

    Same here. What phone are you coming from @cphere?

    After over 4 years I just rolled off the Padfone X.

  • westside80westside80 KentuckyPosts: 5,532 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @cphere said:

    @jimlloyd40 said:

    @hollap said:

    Can't wait to hear what you think @cphere!

    Same here. What phone are you coming from @cphere?

    After over 4 years I just rolled off the Padfone X.

    Wow. I've never even heard of that phone. It must be old. Padfone? It must've been a good one.

  • wings4anniewings4annie Orange,caPosts: 1,042 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @cphere said:

    @jimlloyd40 said:

    @hollap said:

    Can't wait to hear what you think @cphere!

    Same here. What phone are you coming from @cphere?

    After over 4 years I just rolled off the Padfone X.

    Oh yes I remember you.
    @cphere let us know how you like the axon m.
    And send screenshot. So we can all be jealous! :)

  • fzrrichfzrrich Buffalo New York Posts: 3,909 mod
    edited November 7, 2017 11:39AM

    @mrknight85 said:
    I have a video up on my channel (knight tech)

    And here it is.... ;)

  • DoppelgangerDDoppelgangerD USA Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    This is only an unboxing and overview of functions, so not a full review, but I really like this guy, he's entertaining and does a nice job showing the Axon M here.

  • hollaphollap Wisconsin USA Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @DoppelgangerD said:
    This is only an unboxing and overview of functions, so not a full review, but I really like this guy, he's entertaining and does a nice job showing the Axon M here.

    He seems pretty excited about it.

  • fzrrichfzrrich Buffalo New York Posts: 3,909 mod

    @DoppelgangerD said:
    This is only an unboxing and overview of functions, so not a full review, but I really like this guy, he's entertaining and does a nice job showing the Axon M

    I love Inbox Therapy! Lou is great, it's great seeing him so excited about the Axon M :)

  • hollaphollap Wisconsin USA Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @fzrrich said:

    @DoppelgangerD said:
    This is only an unboxing and overview of functions, so not a full review, but I really like this guy, he's entertaining and does a nice job showing the Axon M

    I love Inbox Therapy! Lou is great, it's great seeing him so excited about the Axon M :)

    Actually the video gets quite a few likes for the device as well. Hilarious to see what many people would use the dual screen for LOL

  • westside80westside80 KentuckyPosts: 5,532 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @hollap said:

    @fzrrich said:

    @DoppelgangerD said:
    This is only an unboxing and overview of functions, so not a full review, but I really like this guy, he's entertaining and does a nice job showing the Axon M

    I love Inbox Therapy! Lou is great, it's great seeing him so excited about the Axon M :)

    Actually the video gets quite a few likes for the device as well. Hilarious to see what many people would use the dual screen for LOL

    I figured porn would be the number 1 thing. Lol. Nothing like watching porn with a friend or on two screens. Double the pleasure, double the fun!!

  • MSTKMSTK USAPosts: 23 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have the padfone x mini. I used it as a work phone. I carried the tablet part around a little while instead of the Asus Transformer that I also have. I did not carry it around to long. For the most part I watched videos on it. I have been without my Axon M for about 5 days now waiting for the AT&T replacement to arrive. I really miss the phone now using only one screen on my other phones. I was planning on starting walking on the lunch break and doing work at the same time but it's just not the same on one screen. If you use the phone for about a month as a daily driver and get used to operating it you will soon realize how nice it is to have a larger display despite its flaws. If you really prefer a smaller display then it won't bother you. It's like using dual monitors at work for the first time. Once you go back to one screen it feels cramped.

  • dnewman007dnewman007 las vegasPosts: 3,024 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @MSTK said:
    I have the padfone x mini. I used it as a work phone. I carried the tablet part around a little while instead of the Asus Transformer that I also have. I did not carry it around to long. For the most part I watched videos on it. I have been without my Axon M for about 5 days now waiting for the AT&T replacement to arrive. I really miss the phone now using only one screen on my other phones. I was planning on starting walking on the lunch break and doing work at the same time but it's just not the same on one screen. If you use the phone for about a month as a daily driver and get used to operating it you will soon realize how nice it is to have a larger display despite its flaws. If you really prefer a smaller display then it won't bother you. It's like using dual monitors at work for the first time. Once you go back to one screen it feels cramped.

    @MSTK Thanks for your input. It's nice to hear from someone using the M.

  • wings4anniewings4annie Orange,caPosts: 1,042 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @MSTK I really understand what you are saying. I did without my device for a weekend, I missed it so much.
    Never again will I leave it behind.
    I really love my AxonM

  • wings4anniewings4annie Orange,caPosts: 1,042 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭

    @MSTK said:
    I have the padfone x mini. I used it as a work phone. I carried the tablet part around a little while instead of the Asus Transformer that I also have. I did not carry it around to long. For the most part I watched videos on it. I have been without my Axon M for about 5 days now waiting for the AT&T replacement to arrive. I really miss the phone now using only one screen on my other phones. I was planning on starting walking on the lunch break and doing work at the same time but it's just not the same on one screen. If you use the phone for about a month as a daily driver and get used to operating it you will soon realize how nice it is to have a larger display despite its flaws. If you really prefer a smaller display then it won't bother you. It's like using dual monitors at work for the first time. Once you go back to one screen it feels cramped.

    @MSTK have you ordered your case yet. I highly recommend it. The case is wonderful.

  • westside80westside80 KentuckyPosts: 5,532 ✭✭✭✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2017 12:37PM

    @wings4annie said:
    @MSTK I really understand what you are saying. I did without my device for a weekend, I missed it so much.
    Never again will I leave it behind.
    I really love my AxonM

    I wish I could afford one. I'd love to play around with it. I've never used a phone with 2 displays.

  • MSTKMSTK USAPosts: 23 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @wings4annie said:
    @MSTK have you ordered your case yet. I highly recommend it. The case is wonderful.

    Yes. I ordered it and was using it. I like it for grip in holding it but I might like it better without and full cover glass screen protectors with outer skin. The case adds little bulk but I'm guessing I will have issues with it staying on later.

  • MSTKMSTK USAPosts: 23 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 6, 2017 4:03PM

    @westside80 said:

    @wings4annie said:
    @MSTK I really understand what you are saying. I did without my device for a weekend, I missed it so much.
    Never again will I leave it behind.
    I really love my AxonM

    I wish I could afford one. I'd love to play around with it. I've never used a phone with 2 displays.

    I considered selling my Axon 7 and a few other old phone to make up the cash difference. Unless another dual screen phone comes out that it better I may start using more budget friendly unlocked phones. This phone actually got me to purchase it because I've been wanting to multitask for a while now. It's still not perfect for what I've been trying to do but it is closer than anyone else.

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